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    Defense Gear

    Isn't it about time we got rid of defensive gear? Defensive stats hardly matter in terms of dmg reduction (especially compared to offensive stats). Event defensive gear has elementals nerfed. Defense stats are barely factored into reducing uni dmg.

    Previous, current, and future quests are 100% dps time-limit focused (Also ToJ why is Rook, Soldier, and Cleric dps-based?). Soldiers, rooks, and clerics have barely any use outside of super hard quests (where mons tend to have piercer anyway).

    We are getting new moves that make procs useless (Starburst, Rage Slash, and Raging Pain already do this). And now we are entering the era of monsters granting the ability to not only pierce your defense but your character's soul as well (providing you live through the mon's atk of course, this has been unlikely for a while now). And just as a little cherry on top we are starting to get def-ignoring monsters just for shiggles.

    As of right now, whats the point of the head and chestpiece slots (besides increasing dps on the Rook class, a non dps class).

    #2
    If that is what you think take off all the armor, helms and only take archer monsters when you quest. You'll see that defense definitely makes a difference.

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      #3
      i didnt know that rook was a non dps class, u learn smt new everyday

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      Archers; 686k / 614k
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        #4
        Nevermind the fact that Rook and Soldier are actually incredibly heavy DPSers in all PvE content....

        Defense does indeed make a difference, just not a big one. Which is why there has been a suggestion to make the DEF and MDEF stats better at making you survive in the suggestion section of the forums. And I'd argue that the increase in Piercer moves actually increases the value of DEF and MDEF stats, since those are the only way to reduce damage taken from them.

        Also, surviving unison attacks isn't extremely hard. People just ignore the value in constants and the Xeno armor, both of which are virtually a requirement for surviving them. And then there's your elemental def, and regular def, and those also play a big part in reducing damage you take from monsters, since most monsters are multi-hits.
        Last edited by GrimTony; 01-23-2019, 07:40 PM.

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        • Phoenix
          Phoenix commented
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          The thing is though without procs, can you survive at all? 6th ring is coming, moves are getting stronger, and the formula is gonna keep swinging toward offense.

        #5
        Rook is arguably the strongest elemental dps class. The reasons that idea hasnt been widely popular is due to the amount of money needing to maximize its potential. Thus very few good dps rook exist.

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        Archers; 686k / 614k
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        • Cherif
          Cherif commented
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          Hm..i had 33 element atk the last crystal event and dealt only about 6m with each attack with bad monsters..weird

        • Guruanu
          Guruanu commented
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          What’s your def/mdef at cherif? Also, were you using the sword to increase the damage of BoL and PoF?
          (I was also the one using Ariel so I had hero for double stats)

        • Bryan_the_guy
          Bryan_the_guy commented
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          Hero gives +100% def and Mdef which is REALLY REALLY good as that's the only way to get a def and Mdef that's higher then 80%.

          Ariel also gives +40% def and Mdef (along with attack and matk and HP.) And gives +4 element advantage with her blessing alone.

          She also gives +6 Element.

          Add in a AP monster like bastet, and pollux and castor, and add in a debuffing monsters and you'll be dealing a ton of damage.

        #6
        Buddy. Defense gears matter a lot LMAO. You need them to maximize your damage on soldier and rook. You need the stats to help mitigate some damage from people (I'm saying some because people don't realize that 200k defenses mitigate almost 85%-90% of the damage from a 200k atk with no proc. And defense gears give you the defense procs you need. Who said nulls won't still be viable? Will people stop using rage slash or starburst? Hell no lol. You also need damage downs to tank any non piercer attack (6th ring moves only ignore null remember). It's all based on how you set up. And any game is finished when a monster is thrown, so there's no difference than the usual really.

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        • |Atlås|
          |Atlås| commented
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          tanking unisons should be np these days

        • Phantom
          Phantom commented
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          Yup yup exactly.
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